Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

[Morpheous]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

The garrison I listed above are directly linked to PNP and JLP. There are other that are linked to america but I did not copy and paste those gangs/posse directly in this thread. I merely provided a link. The ones directly listed in this thread ARE linked to JLP and PNP respectively.

Talking about 3 garrisons JLP to PNP 10 garrison as if that makes it better or more justified to have support from the respective political parties. You are admitting their are political garrison for PNP and JLP while trying to make one party out to be worse than the other. The fact is they are as bad as each other. I have no political alliance or bias like you so I see 360 degrees not 90 degrees like you.


You say I am performing mathematical operations when in fact you are; talking about 10 PNP vs 3 JLP garrisons - they have loads of garrisons they use to fight their political interests in ghetto areas across kingston. You can not hide the FACT that JLP and PNP have garrisons that they support and back politically and politicians in Jamaica have their don men that heed their beck and call, some garrisons may switch political allies if they don't get what they want but the fact remains the JLP and PNP party are in bed with local terrorists and you are sitting comfortable in your house while poor people are suffering at the hands of the corrupt PNP and JLP officials who support these garrisons.

You will NEVER convince me that Jamaica is garrison free or that the JLP and PNP under manley and seaga did not start the terrorist legacy that has affected Jamaica long after they have left office. They should be held accountable for their sins to the Jamaican legal system because the poor suffer. I will always support and back the ghetto yutes. I will always listen to the ghetto yutes cry and what they are saying over what you come on here and blab about. I will always blame the JLP and PNP for the existence of garrisons in Jamaica and I will always blame the JLP and PNP for failing the ghetto yutes and the law abiding ordinary people of Jamaica.

I grew up in jamaica and been to many ghetto areas and STILL keep regular contact with happenings on the ground in the ghetto from people who still live the ghetto life so I will always take their word and experiences and what I myself have experienced over your biased political views.

Tuffy you are politically biased and not in a position to clearly, fairly or objectively admit or see the issues of garrisons in Jamaica as you are too busy chalking up scores on PNP vs JLP.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The garrison I listed above are directly linked to PNP and JLP. </div></div>
What Garrisons did <span style="font-weight: bold">you</span> list above?
You are telling us that your list is correct?
I am saying it is <span style="font-weight: bold">not correct </span>but it does not matter it is niether<span style="font-weight: bold"> here </span>nor <span style="font-weight: bold">there</span>.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Talking about 3 garrisons JLP to PNP 10 garrison as if that makes it better or more justified to have support from the respective political parties.</div></div>I never said that!
Just in case you <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">cannot read and comprehend </span>let me restate. For years we have been told and is still been told that the PNP has 10 Garrisons and the JLP has 3 Garrisons. <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Your</span> list is faulty and again it does not matter counting Garrisons is not what the conversation was about anyway.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are admitting their are political garrison for PNP and JLP....</div></div>
<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I never once denied that fact</span> and you cannot demonstrate by any measure that I did.
I merely tried to correct your faulty descriptions and numbers. <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I did it 3 years ago when you posted this crap, I did 2 years ago, I did it last year I think</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(can't remember at one time I was banned for over a year)</span> and <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I assume knowing how fool-fool you are I will be doing it again if we are both still here.</span>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">And again</span> it does not matter counting Garrisons is not what this was about anyway.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are admitting their are political garrison for PNP and JLP while trying to make one party out to be worse than the other. </div></div>I am not making out anything of the sort. The stats prove that but again you and the facts are not on friendly terms. You persist in your idiocy without any care or regard for truth, fairness and/or overstanding.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The fact is they are as bad as each other. I have no political alliance or bias like you so I see 360 degrees not 90 degrees like you.</div></div>My friend you must be some sort of alien or something to be able to see 360 degrees at a time as for my visual range you have no access to my medical records therefore you are in no position whatsoever to make any qualified judgment as to my capability.
Now to my political allegiance:
first I must ask what exactly is my political allegiance?
secondly what is it to you?
how does this have any bearing on the subject of this post?

[DONOTvote]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<span style="font-size: 11pt">More4 your arguments are extremely sound, I am afraid there are one or two people here who cannot make any analysis of rudimentary facts such as why the JLP and PNP sponsor killer gangs such as ONE ORDER and CLANSMEN? The cult party supporters of the corrupt PNP and JLP will never see any problem. There are also those here who are such diehard Eddie Seaga supporters, its easy to think that they are either his secretary researcher or someone very closely connected.
More4,there are some indiviuals here whose cultist views have been laughed at in other forums by so many people they have had to leave.
More4 your views are correct and don't be surprised if you are accused of &quot;supporting the other party&quot; if you point out that you are opposed to BOTH PARTIES. Its as if you are dealing with illiterate children.</span>

[jah_yout]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PNP or JLP, it makes so little difference that it really doesn't matter which holds power.

They are the twin parties of capitalism and nothing will change in Jamaica under capitalism and under people who, regardless of party affiliation, basically support the status quo as regards the economic set up.</div></div>

You are talking nonsense! </div></div>



Sure Tuffy, I'M talking nonsense.

And to what to you attribute the massive murder rate, drug use, crime in general that is rampant in Jamaica and so low in democratic socialist Cuba?

It cannot be that humans are basically brutal creatures or what has happened to crime and the other illnesses of poverty in Cuba could not have happened.

Is it not poverty and despair; the feeling that nothing will change and that the future is just more of the same.

And....does not that feeling of despair flow from history, from empiric proof from the experience of the people, from voting for change time after time and seeing things not only not get better but to worsen?

Please tell me your solution to the poverty which is the source of the crime or do you contend that poverty/ the widespread feeling of no chance for better is not the reason?
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gwaan johnny yu a talk sense

[johnnycakes]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

PNP or JLP, it makes so little difference that it really doesn't matter which holds power.

They are the twin parties of capitalism and nothing will change in Jamaica under capitalism and under people who, regardless of party affiliation, basically support the status quo as regards the economic set up.</div></div>

You are talking nonsense! </div></div>



Sure Tuffy, I'M talking nonsense.

And to what to you attribute the massive murder rate, drug use, crime in general that is rampant in Jamaica and so low in democratic socialist Cuba?

It cannot be that humans are basically brutal creatures or what has happened to crime and the other illnesses of poverty in Cuba could not have happened.

Is it not poverty and despair; the feeling that nothing will change and that the future is just more of the same.

And....does not that feeling of despair flow from history, from empiric proof from the experience of the people, from voting for change time after time and seeing things not only not get better but to worsen?

Please tell me your solution to the poverty which is the source of the crime or do you contend that poverty/ the widespread feeling of no chance for better is not the reason?
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gwaan johnny yu a talk sense

Thank you for your vote of confidence Jah yout,

Of course widespread poverty and despair, the lack of hope for a better future or a chance for a better future is what drives Jamaica's youth into lives of violence and crime.

That is why all the things that have been tried to stop the crime, drug use, violence and corruption do not work.

These methods address the symptoms and attempt to suppress them through further threats and violence which only exacerbate the situation.

Until the cause , until the unequal distribution of the goods and services necessary for a good life is brought to an end and the people of Jamaica can clearly see that a brighter future is not only possible but probable even martial law will not be able to bring peace and economic justice to not only Jamaica but the rest of the troubled world as well.

It's just a matter of time.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That exactly what you implied you made no qualifications when you made the statement above! I can read and overstand well enough!</div></div>

Tuffy, there you go again comming up with your <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;That (is) exactly what you implied&quot;</span> as a cover to justify your <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;Very Dishonest&quot;</span> comment. ~ For your information, let me say that in no way can you or anyone equate what I said:<span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;from the crime wave that has overwhelmed us <span style="font-style: italic">DURING</span> the last 40 years&quot;</span> with your implied creation of <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;that level of crime <span style="font-style: italic">HAS BEEN</span> in Jamaica for over 40 years&quot;.</span> It's an attempt to distort what I SAID and to put words in my mouth.

I just want to let you know that I KNOW the difference between what I said and what You IMPLIED. You went over the line with your characterisation of me as <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;very dishonest&quot;</span> when it was clearly not the case. As you may be aware by now, I dont accept the characterisation. ~ For me, this is a closed issue without any malice...
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.
</div></div>....LOL <span style="font-weight: bold">without malice</span>?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DONOTvote</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt">More4 your arguments are extremely sound, I am afraid there are one or two people here who cannot make any analysis of rudimentary facts such as why the JLP and PNP sponsor killer gangs such as ONE ORDER and CLANSMEN? The cult party supporters of the corrupt PNP and JLP will never see any problem. There are also those here who are such diehard Eddie Seaga supporters, its easy to think that they are either his secretary researcher or someone very closely connected.
More4,there are some indiviuals here whose cultist views have been laughed at in other forums by so many people they have had to leave.
More4 your views are correct and don't be surprised if you are accused of &quot;supporting the other party&quot; if you point out that you are opposed to BOTH PARTIES. Its as if you are dealing with illiterate children.</span> </div></div>....

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Anal retentive buffoon</span> another English joker supporting an equally clownish joker.
Yes it great that unno can Low-Jack any post on the board and suddenly unno a victim.
Hey Jamaica is the murder capital of the world over 1500 person die there every year.
Trying to constantly post lies to back the craziness in unno head is not going to solve the problem.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

PNP or JLP, it makes so little difference that it really doesn't matter which holds power.

They are the twin parties of capitalism and nothing will change in Jamaica under capitalism and under people who, regardless of party affiliation, basically support the status quo as regards the economic set up.</div></div>

You are talking nonsense! </div></div>



Sure Tuffy, I'M talking nonsense.

And to what to you attribute the massive murder rate, drug use, crime in general that is rampant in Jamaica and so low in democratic socialist Cuba?

It cannot be that humans are basically brutal creatures or what has happened to crime and the other illnesses of poverty in Cuba could not have happened.

Is it not poverty and despair; the feeling that nothing will change and that the future is just more of the same.

And....does not that feeling of despair flow from history, from empiric proof from the experience of the people, from voting for change time after time and seeing things not only not get better but to worsen?

Please tell me your solution to the poverty which is the source of the crime or do you contend that poverty/ the widespread feeling of no chance for better is not the reason?
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gwaan johnny yu a talk sense

Thank you for your vote of confidence Jah yout,

Of course widespread poverty and despair, the lack of hope for a better future or a chance for a better future is what drives Jamaica's youth into lives of violence and crime.

That is why all the things that have been tried to stop the crime, drug use, violence and corruption do not work.

These methods address the symptoms and attempt to suppress them through further threats and violence which only exacerbate the situation.

Until the cause , until the unequal distribution of the goods and services necessary for a good life is brought to an end and the people of Jamaica can clearly see that a brighter future is not only possible but probable even martial law will not be able to bring peace and economic justice to not only Jamaica but the rest of the troubled world as well.

It's just a matter of time.

LOL..I see all the <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">ditto heds</span> dem chek een...unno a kill mi dung yah!

[Morpheous]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DONOTvote</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt">More4 your arguments are extremely sound, I am afraid there are one or two people here who cannot make any analysis of rudimentary facts such as why the JLP and PNP sponsor killer gangs such as ONE ORDER and CLANSMEN? The cult party supporters of the corrupt PNP and JLP will never see any problem. There are also those here who are such diehard Eddie Seaga supporters, its easy to think that they are either his secretary researcher or someone very closely connected.
More4,there are some indiviuals here <span style="font-weight: bold">whose cultist views have been laughed at in other forums by so many people they have had to leave.</span>
More4 your views are correct and <span style="font-weight: bold">don't be surprised if you are accused of &quot;supporting the other party&quot; if you point out that you are opposed to BOTH PARTIES. Its as if you are dealing with illiterate children.</span></span> </div></div>
I just decided to browse this post - (as I expected the usual predictable response from him). Listen he has crossed swords with almost everyone on here. He has been banned from here before too (not sure how many times). TG can't phase me and never will, we have all gotten used to him, we merely humor him from time to time. Btw he gets laughed at on here too. Peace.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just decided to browse this post - (as I expected the usual predictable response from him). Listen he has crossed swords with almost everyone on here. He has been banned from here before too (not sure how many times). TG can't phase me and never will, we have all gotten used to him, we merely humor him from time to time. Btw he gets laughed at on here too. Peace. </div></div>....LOL what <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">you</span> was hoping for another ban?
Listen I never worry about bans I just do not tell lies. The Moderator of this forum and other have been trying to put me off the board permanently for years simply because I seek the truth, lying idiots such as yourself have been the chief tools.
When you look at the semi-illiterate cast of characters that have lined up against I personally, it tells you exactly what kind of low-life, low-biting opinions that <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">this Board</span> collectively wants to foster. My conscience is clear, I never worry about been laughed at by slime balls, because I know of what I speak, when I speak and how I speak a guy or gyal don't like it bite it!

[uswe]

Re: Prime minister`s revolutionary solution to crime

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just decided to browse this post - (as I expected the usual predictable response from him). Listen he has crossed swords with almost everyone on here. He has been banned from here before too (not sure how many times). TG can't phase me and never will, we have all gotten used to him, we merely humor him from time to time. Btw he gets laughed at on here too. Peace. </div></div>....LOL what <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">you</span> was hoping for another ban?
Listen I never worry about bans I just do not tell lies. The Moderator of this forum and other have been trying to put me off the board permanently for years simply because I seek the truth, lying idiots such as yourself have been the chief tools.
When you look at the semi-illiterate cast of characters that have lined up against I personally, it tells you exactly what kind of low-life, low-biting opinions that <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">this Board</span> collectively wants to foster. My conscience is clear, I never worry about been laughed at by slime balls, because I know of what I speak, when I speak and how I speak a guy or gyal don't like it bite it!
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